[identity profile] destinylight.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] bus_riders
While this may be off-topic, OH MY GOD Kyle.

OMG KYLE.

KYLE! Kyle in his uber woobie-cuteness and this new way-too-awesome-way-too-good-to-be-true development, especially in relation to Ephram (since we all know that Kyle = Ephram)

Actually, Kyle being gay can bring up all sorts of interesting things to explore in Ephram's character. Ephram obviously sees the parallel between himself and Kyle, and for him to be so twitchy about it makes me wonder if he's still struggling with some issues. Obviously, there's also the whole Madison-factor, but Ephram was still unusually twitchy about it.

I really enjoyed Ephram and Reed's discussion about sexuality - it was solid and it really does get the message across to the millions of teenagers watching the show. (And I'm sort of kind of cheating on my OTP of life, B/E, but lately, R/E's been having amazing interaction. We really need more Ephram/Bright interaction. Because Reed/Ephram interaction is cute and Ephram/Kyle interaction makes me squeal, but nothing will ever ever beat B/E.)

I hope this isn't going to be like the cheap is-he-or-is-he-not thing with Reed. We need a gay character on the show. But they really shouldn't have Kyle have a crush on Ephram because, uh, incest much? Ephram is pretty much Kyle's father figure, and while I am all in favor of siblingcest, father/son incest is kind of creepy, especially given that Ephram/Kyle is meant to parallel Andy/Ephram.

Hey, maybe the kid Rose and Harold adopts will be gay and they can spend next season being cute together and stuff. Probably not though. They'll probably have him fall for Amy or Hannah and Kyle'll pine for him for a while and then Hannah and Bright will break up and Hannah'll date the new kid, except eventually Bright and Hannah'll get back together, because as we all know, B/H is second only to E/A in Everwood canon.

So uh...any opinions on this new development in Everwood? Or am I just making a big deal out of a minor character?

Date: 2006-04-11 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joyful.livejournal.com
While I get your incest point, I wouldn't mind a fic or two with K/E. I do believe that the Abbotts are going to adopt a girl, but you never know. I was always a Bright/Ephram 'shipper, but I like Bright with Hannah now. I still insist that Ephram's sexuality is questionable. Maybe it's the purple hair from the first episode, but I still think he's bi. Maybe it's just 'cause he's a prettyboy, I don't know.

Ooh! Attack ofthe plotbunny! What about Kyle/Wendall?

Date: 2006-04-13 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] visbot.livejournal.com
i whole heartedly endorse Kyle/Wendell :D

Date: 2006-04-16 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amelia-kay.livejournal.com
I hate B/H enough for all of us. Worst. MarySue. Ever.

Date: 2006-04-11 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenix-bellamy.livejournal.com
Well...After 4x13 is doesn't that seems that Kyle has a crush on Ephram...Yet, as joyful I wouldn't mind some K/E fics.
Maybe just Kyle's wet dreams about his piano teacher...Nothing that Ephram will ever now about.
Or a B/E fic where Bright gets jealous over Ephram after he gets to know about Kyle's confession about his sexuality.
I wouldn't mind even some E/R...God, I'm really longing for some slash fic on Everwood...

What about Kyle/Wendall

But I'm not that desperate XD!

Date: 2006-04-12 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/im_that_girl_/
I could totally go for some E/k even though I'm pretty solid on B/E. It would be nice for Ephram to be in control for once. Maybe because of my own personal experiences as of late, but I'm finding the idea of the submissive one trying to be dominant with their regular partner or with another, less experienced partner, very hot.

The Abbotts aren't adopting nothing. NOTHING. Harold screwed them over when he lied about Rose's cancer.

Date: 2006-04-14 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joyful.livejournal.com
My head went to a scary place today. I have a cold, so I've been hopped up on NyQuil & other meds. For some reason, my brain decided to tell me that Ephram, Bright, Hannah & Kyle should fall through a hole in the fabric of reality and land on Serenity. This makes even less sense than the Firefly/seaQuest crossover I dreamed about last night. Meep. Actually, I think Wendell would do quite well on the Serenity. Give him a week & he'd have more connections than Mal & Jayne & Zoe put together.


Also, about the incest issue. As I'm constantly arguing with my best friend Shiro, incest really only applies to blood relations. He & I are best friends, and often refer to each otehr as siblings. Everyone tells us we should date each other, but we don't want to screw up the relationship, like Ms. Amy the Prima-donna bitch queen. ;-) Sometimes friendships that start out familial can often turn romantic. And sometimes those are the most stabile & passionate romances in history. While Kyle currently sees Ephram as a father/big brother-type figure, it would be normal human behaviour for his feelings to change, and possibly evolve into smoochy ones. And while Ephram sees Kyle as the little kid/little brother he has to protect and mentor, something could happen to change Kyle in his eyes, causing his o develop woobie feelings. It also goes the other way. Sometimes you can have a crush on someone, but after a lot of time with them, you realize you care for them more in a familial way.

Also, there is no reason fanfiction needs to resemble canon in any respect, lol.

Date: 2006-04-18 02:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] abraxas-life.livejournal.com
Completely agreed.

Date: 2006-04-14 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] behrbemine.livejournal.com
Yay Kyle! I completely agree!

The father figure thing does squick me a bit, but doesn't keep me from hoping for some K/E. I was so hoping this week's show would be about Kyle having a crush on Ephram. That entire conversation in the parking lot, I was thinking, "Kiss him! Kiss him!" I can't help it. They're weaved into my brain. My E/A loving brain. Oh my.

Date: 2006-04-27 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danosulik.livejournal.com
OMG KYLE.

KYLE! Kyle in his uber woobie-cuteness and this new way-too-awesome-way-too-good-to-be-true development, especially in relation to Ephram (since we all know that Kyle = Ephram)


Word. GAH!

Besides, he has two huge advantages over past gay characters in Berlantiland:
* Unlike Carl, he actually gives us reason to care what happens to him.
* Like Colin and unlike, oh, say, Jack on DC, he has an emotion. Or two. He has a personality. There's a "there" there.

So please, please, powers that be, keep him around!

Ephram obviously sees the parallel between himself and Kyle, and for him to be so twitchy about it makes me wonder if he's still struggling with some issues. Obviously, there's also the whole Madison-factor, but Ephram was still unusually twitchy about it.

Well, he once mentioned that he used to get stuffed into lockers at his private school in New York, which is probable to the point of cliche for a scrawny kid who's not only unathletic and artistic (or in Farside terms, "Bummer of a birthmark, Hal") but mouthy. Whoever gave him the "Welcome to the L.I., bitch" treatment also undoubtedly called him by the favo(u)rite epithet of bullies all across the continent, chosen for its implied assault on the target's manhood. So he could be gay-friendly and still hypersensitive to stereotyping motivated by homophobia -- especially if he was once on the receiving end. So to speak.

Besides, isn't twitchy Ephram's middle name? Especially when he thinks he has someone to protect?

But yeah, I would've expected him to be a bit more "yeah, and?" up front.

Or am I just making a big deal out of a minor character?

Minor characters don't have to stay that way. At least we can hope.

Ah, Kyle. *swoons*
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